Jesus Christ. On second thought, no... pretty sure he wouldn't appreciate this.
I sincerely hope that most of these are the same person, because I would hate to think there are very many more of them out there. The arrogant, ignorant gall of it! Because reading style is completely under a person's control, as are her voice, inflection and accent. And goodness knows if that's true, then performance choices such as acting, and the voices one gives the characters are incredibly easy to fix. And by "fix" I mean, "Do them the way Anonymous likes to hear them."
This is doing fandom wrong if I ever saw it. The ONLY thing to do with fanworks that you don't care for is to click away. I don't mind listeners calling attention to mistakes in the recording—in fact I encourage it—and for sure I've often thought, "This story could have used a beta reader. Or two." but you don't criticize people for something they can't help.
Really, fandom? Really?
*sighs* I hope this post was helpful for you in venting some of the hurt, my dear. It's easy to say, "Pay no attention to these idiots." but much harder to do. For example, I read a comment on one of the anon memes—I went looking for it, so that's on me—that said something like, "I hate to say it because she's such a nice woman, but chemm80 reads like a robot." Even that—nowhere near as ugly as this— was something I couldn't quite shake off, and I think of it every time I read, and I'm pretty sure it was somewhere in the neighborhood of two years ago. People need to think before they speak type. On the other hand, this person had some idea of what they were doing, or they wouldn't have commented anon. Maybe someone will listen to this post and realize that their comments really aren't helpful at all. If they want to actually help, here's a link to the proper way to comment on podfic; maybe you can direct any future idiots there.
You are so brave to go look for yourself on an anonmeme. I pretend they don't exist, especially now that I podfic, because I'm an emotional reader (I'm actually toned down for podfic!) and I know that that is the exact opposite of people's preference. D: I'd hate to see what they say. I dread not knowing, but I know that it would hurt me more to go look.
Yes, well, I've always been too curious for my own good. And I've spent a lifetime trying to learn to take constructive criticism without being crushed, so there's that. But it's risky, too. Some emotional wounds are permanent, and although we choose how to let others' opinions affect us, it can be very, very difficult to make the right choices. I think Jinxy is being really brave trying to move past this as she is, and I'm glad to see it. (Besides, I'd hate for fandom to lose a podficcer of her calibre over this BS.)
Well, I've been the recipient of a chapter by chapter sporking once upon a time, so the fact that I'm back in fandom if a little thinner skinned is something. I don't bother with anons anymore, bascially.
Oh whoa, that stings. I don't blame you. Fandom is supposed to make you happy, so you're certainly right to stay away from the parts of it that... really don't.
Basically if it's not a comment on my fic/podfic/journal, I don't care anymore and do not go look. But I cannot even believe these people (person?) are leaving these kind of comments directly on her stuff! *shakes head at people*
No, me either. I've posted literally hundreds of podfics and that's never happened to me. The worst I've gotten have been people complaining because the download won't work for them, or wondering if I can make a version without music, etc. They're more whiners than direct attackers. But then again, before Teen Wolf I always worked in Supernatural and Generation Kill, both of which are reasonably mature fandoms, I think, maybe more so than Teen Wolf, so I may run into it yet.
I do believe from obsessively looking at the messages and reading them over and over that at least 2-3 of them must be coming from the same person. And all on different podfics...which is somewhat funny to me since they hate me so much, but can't stop listening to my work.
I'm not vein, but it reeks of jealousy??? Idek.
I have had major boo boos in the past when I've dragged a box too far in editing and something has overlapped...so I'm with you, I WELCOME that feedback, but the entitled bullshit I'm getting from these anons is just beyond me.
This was soooo therapeutic for me. And the response it's getting makes me feel so much relief.
I don't know what anon memes are, but something tells me I better not go looking. (I'm an aloof fandom person, I'm really not so familiar with a lot of stuff)
Thanks for that link, I will be referring to it quite a lot in the future. Schooling the peeps on the proper way to comment. Such a great tool.
<3333 (p.s. I'm sending you an email later about that phone sex fic)
Anon memes are comms with threads on various fandom subjects in which everyone is expected to comment ONLY anon. They serve as a place where you can give honest feedback, like on Big Bangs and such. I've mostly been around the Supernatural ones, and that can be a really brutal fandom, so. They also provide a place where people can be honest about the things that bug them without worrying about losing friends over it.
I think they have their value, if you're looking for honest feedback, for instance, but they can be really, really nasty, so if you're sensitive at all, it's best to stay away. And even if you're not, see the conversation with Majoline above. You view them at your own risk.
Oh hey! I just saw this post and couldn't believe the comments you got >:(( I hope you're managing to keep your spirit up and keep making the things that make you happy!
And I'm glad my little piece of meta looks helpful to you! :)
Thank you for making that meta. You put so much time into it! I appreciate it so much. I am not only going to share it with people, but I realized that perhaps even my feedback could use a little TLC.
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I sincerely hope that most of these are the same person, because I would hate to think there are very many more of them out there. The arrogant, ignorant gall of it! Because reading style is completely under a person's control, as are her voice, inflection and accent. And goodness knows if that's true, then performance choices such as acting, and the voices one gives the characters are incredibly easy to fix. And by "fix" I mean, "Do them the way Anonymous likes to hear them."
This is doing fandom wrong if I ever saw it. The ONLY thing to do with fanworks that you don't care for is to click away. I don't mind listeners calling attention to mistakes in the recording—in fact I encourage it—and for sure I've often thought, "This story could have used a beta reader. Or two." but you don't criticize people for something they can't help.
Really, fandom? Really?
*sighs* I hope this post was helpful for you in venting some of the hurt, my dear. It's easy to say, "Pay no attention to these idiots." but much harder to do. For example, I read a comment on one of the anon memes—I went looking for it, so that's on me—that said something like, "I hate to say it because she's such a nice woman, but chemm80 reads like a robot." Even that—nowhere near as ugly as this— was something I couldn't quite shake off, and I think of it every time I read, and I'm pretty sure it was somewhere in the neighborhood of two years ago. People need to think before they
speaktype. On the other hand, this person had some idea of what they were doing, or they wouldn't have commented anon. Maybe someone will listen to this post and realize that their comments really aren't helpful at all. If they want to actually help, here's a link to the proper way to comment on podfic; maybe you can direct any future idiots there.no subject
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I'm not vein, but it reeks of jealousy??? Idek.
I have had major boo boos in the past when I've dragged a box too far in editing and something has overlapped...so I'm with you, I WELCOME that feedback, but the entitled bullshit I'm getting from these anons is just beyond me.
This was soooo therapeutic for me. And the response it's getting makes me feel so much relief.
I don't know what anon memes are, but something tells me I better not go looking. (I'm an aloof fandom person, I'm really not so familiar with a lot of stuff)
Thanks for that link, I will be referring to it quite a lot in the future. Schooling the peeps on the proper way to comment. Such a great tool.
<3333
(p.s. I'm sending you an email later about that phone sex fic)
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I think they have their value, if you're looking for honest feedback, for instance, but they can be really, really nasty, so if you're sensitive at all, it's best to stay away. And even if you're not, see the conversation with Majoline above. You view them at your own risk.
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And I'm glad my little piece of meta looks helpful to you! :)
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